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males or females?

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#1 ·
I have found an ad for cockatiels that need rehoming.
Here is what the ad says for colors. i am assuming that the male and female listed are the parents. can anyone tell me what the sex of the babies might be?

I HAVE 5 COCKATIELS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REHOMED FOR A SMALL REHOMING FEE OF 100.00 HERE IS WHAT I HAVE.

1 MALE .. WHITE AND GREY.... 2 YEARS OLD.

1 FEMALE... WHITE ,GREY, AND YELLOW, 2 YEARS OLD

3 BABY COCKATIELS...... 2 YELLOW AND 1 WHITE AND GREY
 
#9 ·
No but Lutino is a sex linked mutation. It is a gene that Fathers pass on to their Daughters regardless of the Mothers mutation. However to get a male the Mother would have to be Lutino (females can't be split for Lutino) and the Father would have to at least be split for it. So if niether parent IS Lutino that means the gene came from Dad (since Mom can't carry the gene unseen) and therefor all Lutino babies will be Lutino. So right out of the shoot a Lutino statistically is more likely to be female.
 
#10 ·
Sweetrsue...

No but Lutino is a sex linked mutation. It is a gene that Fathers pass on to their Daughters regardless of the Mothers mutation. However to get a male the Mother would have to be Lutino (females can't be split for Lutino) and the Father would have to at least be split for it. .
I just wanted to asked a question about Lutino Genetics - I have a Hand Tamed Lutino (15 weeks old), which chirps a lot, but isn't as vocal as my as other Male cockatiels, so I thought that it must be a Hen...

But, now I'm wondering if it's a sex linked mutation - perhaps it is a quiet boy...

Tino's (original name I know!! lol) Mother is a Lutino and Father is a Normal (sadly I don't know if he is split for lutino)...

Do you have any thought as to what sex Tino is? Or hints to when I'll be able to sex s/he?

When I clipped Tino's wings, there were feather spots of a darker colour yellow on the flight feathers, but because Tino is so young, this doesn't confirm that Tino is a girl, does it?

Thanks in advance...
 
#11 ·
Tino could be any colour. The father you have must be split to lutino, since that's the only way you could get a lutino chick from that combination. Just now, your bird is too young to be sexed by looking at him/her. At six months (roughly) birds get their adult colouring, however, visually sexing a lutino is very difficult.
 
#12 ·
You are right!!!

I had the same question as you before, :)

So, all cockatiels have markings (dots or straight bars, doesn't matter what it looks like) under their flight feathers before their first molt. Therefore, you cannot tell Tino is a guy/ girl at this age (15weeks). Hence, we have to look at its behaviour, but it is not 100% right. I have a quiet male too. So I suggest you wait until it Tino finish its first molt.

Here are two links that show markings under the flight feathers. If you notice, the markings varies from bird to bird. Some have round dots, and some have straight bar marking.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stormwatcher/149564506/
http://www.cockatielsociety.org.au/images/Clipped wing.JPG

Hope this helps, :)
 
#13 ·
Tino could be either male or female, since the mother is lutino and that makes it possible to get a lutino male. A 15 week old cockatiel still has its juvenile coloration (meaning that both males and females will have wing spots and tail bars), and some males don't start singing until they're older than that.

You'll have more clues about your bird's sex when it's older. Different individuals mature at different rates so it could take a few weeks or a few months.
 
#14 ·
So let me see if I get this straight. My friend is buying a lutino from a breeder I am quite close to and I'm curious.

If a lutino tiel has a chance at being a male. His mother must be a visual lutino. Because females can not be split to lutino. So if the bird she is getting has different colored parents than lutino it can only be female???

I am also wondering becuase she just had some lutinos and albinos hatch from two normal cockatiels and I was thinking of getting one. This would mean the lutino I would get would be female?
 
#15 ·
yup!.. ;)... if both parents look normal... any lutino/albino fro them would be a girl... whcih would mean tha dad is split to lutino...

and in order to get both lutinos and albinos both parents would´ve have to be at least split whiteface... (you need two whiteface genes to get whiteface lutinos = albinos)

and yes, females can´t be split for lutino.. either they look lutino or they´re not
 
#16 ·
So if the bird she is getting has different colored parents than lutino it can only be female???
If the bird has a different colored MOTHER it can only be female. Any lutino chick (male or female) can have a non-lutino father. The father has to at least carry the lutino gene for any lutino chicks to be produced, but he doesn't have to display the color himself.

In fact breeding two lutinos together is considered to be undesirable, since there are some inbreeding problems with lutinos and this increase the risks. The ideal parents of a lutino male are a lutino mother and a father who is split lutino.