[Buffyenta314]

There is an excellent supplement for birds to help with liver disease - my vet told me about it and I highly recommend it. It's not a cure-all, but if you use it consistently, it can absolutely help, esp. if your bird is a seed eater and hard to change: This is it; it's a powder that you just sprinkle on their seed:
Equa Holistics Avian Formula Milk Thistle & Dandelion Root Bird Supplement, 1.59-oz tub
By Equa Holistics
In the United States, you can get it through mail order pet food sites like Chewy. You can also order it direct from the company.

https://www.chewy.com/equa-holistics-avian-formula-milk/dp/226424?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=22359145913&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22362842089&gbraid=0AAAAADmQ2V3xcW0FCrfe7FWmTSi-yqOXw&gclid=CjwKCAjw-svEBhB6EiwAEzSdroJYe2FKiegmLucV4SCcW8XruSv4k9DDwcJ9kuDpZvVtddOXYtjEJhoCzJAQAvD_BwE

 

[pmfrizzle77]

Oh wow! I will check into that. It’s pretty expensive, but it would be less invasive than catching. The one concern would be my other bird I don’t think should have it. Thank you so much. It’s a bit pricey for me right now as well. Given everything else I’ve been buying lately.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

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If you have any problem and doesnt know what to do or need more help, feel free to send private message.

I just now saw your long article with the pics as well. Wow that’s an eye-opener seeing those pictures. And I didn’t realize two drops would look like that much in a syringe so I’ve been under administering. He is starting to eat the super fine pellets, however, I wish I had got the fine pellets and then crushed them up as the size I would need at a given time. He actually tried on the first day and when I see him eat them I’m praise him so much.
Bless you for your info and the time you take to share with everyone.

 

[kathyaraujo1429]

I am administering milk thistle/dandelion, plus HomeoPet digestive upset drops in his waterbowl but nothing has changed. He still has an appetite but his stool is a watery/yellow mixture. Also he keeps vomiting up his seeds. My next step is another trip to the vet.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

I was wondering, how old is your bird?
Also see if you can scroll up on this on going discussion to #36 #37 post. I didn’t even know it was there till this morning. From Iks91 that is a very lengthy info post with pictures. I didn’t realize posts can be put in behind earlier ones. But I’m new to sites like this.
I’ve never heard of upset drops, but that doesn’t mean anything because I’ve never heard of all of this before. And I had my 1st cockatiel over 29 years.
I felt one of the most beneficial things for everyone to read is household toxins for cockatiels. It’s unbelievable how MANY things can cause birds trouble. I still have a Bird Talk magazine from the early 2000s that listed these things, but I have googled it online and ran across the same information.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

Since I did put that out here by bringing up “household toxins for Tiels “I thought I would post what I ran across last night. Many of you probably already know of her & she may be a member of talk cockatiels, but just in case, you may want to this check out…

Cockatiel Care: Common Household Dangers to Avoid on You Tube

This girl is very thorough. After the (approx)minute intro she is a “fountain of information” !!! Apparently she is on there often. I hope to find one of her explaining the details of how their respiratory system works and why they absorbed everything they smell.

 

[kathyaraujo1429]

I am administering milk thistle/dandelion, plus HomeoPet digestive upset drops in his waterbowl but nothing has changed. He still has an appetite but his stool is a watery/yellow mixture. Also he keeps vomiting up his seeds. My next step is another trip to the vet.

He's only six years old. Taking seeds away from birds is like taking candy away from a kid. Also, I have another cockatiel who now has to go without his seeds as well, and he is not sick. Not very fair!

K.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

He's only six years old. Taking seeds away from birds is like taking candy away from a kid. Also, I have another cockatiel who now has to go without his seeds as well, and he is not sick. Not very fair!

K.

So true!! I’m not having much luck with my either.
Anyone that’s mentioned switching to pellets, have all said do not remove their seed. To offer them both and also mix them. I have read that cockatiels will go without eating if they don’t like what they have.

Maybe they will eat a bit of cooked sweet potato or even corn. I figure if they’re eating something else ( healthy) then that’s less seed they’ll consume.
Mine used to eat celery& carrot tops, leaf spinach,broccoli etc. And I just brought celery tops home and they’re
not on it “yet”. Like someone else said , they are stubborn, but can come around to it.
Don’t stress over it cause yours are young enough, they have time on their side.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

I’m very happy to report on Is His Beak Too Long… it’s not now!! August 22. Woke him up to realize his beak was now normal!! It looks great. The day before I had my two Cockatiel books out fretting over and comparing to the pic’s in book (again)what to do about it. I was discussing w/ a friend so it’s like my bird, GeeBer must of got sick of hearing about and decided to fix it himself! Lol lol. Maybe the prayers along with the Milk Thistle/dandelion made that long tip thinner and easier to REMOVE IT HIMSELF with his mineral block, and I did see him on the cuttle bone too since. I wanted to send a pic but for some reason I don’t know how to do that on this anymore. I will post this and continue to try to post pic. Thanks to all your info. as that kept me determined to help him.

 

[lks91]

I’m very happy to report on Is His Beak Too Long… it’s not now!! August 22. Woke him up to realize his beak was now normal!! It looks great. The day before I had my two Cockatiel books out fretting over and comparing to the pic’s in book (again)what to do about it. I was discussing w/ a friend so it’s like my bird, GeeBer must of got sick of hearing about and decided to fix it himself! Lol lol. Maybe the prayers along with the Milk Thistle/dandelion made that long tip thinner and easier to REMOVE IT HIMSELF with his mineral block, and I did see him on the cuttle bone too since. I wanted to send a pic but for some reason I don’t know how to do that on this anymore. I will post this and continue to try to post pic. Thanks to all your info. as that kept me determined to help him.

With the liver returning to normal functions the beak can return to peel naturally. If you provided the milk thistle and corrected the diet of the bird for a pellets based ration, that is what saved him. Not only the beak was solved, but he was probably removed from the way of death by liver failure in a near future. These are good news. Keep always providing a good diet for her.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

That’s good to know, what’s going within the beak. I had started him out slow in July with approx 1 to 1 1/2 drops MT so not to overwhelm him at his age. Then 2drop MT every 2 day.mid Aug back to every 3rd day. He was always real receptive of it until that morning Aug22 and his demeanor changed, couldn’t catch him, he was NOT having it! That’s when I realized his beak was fixed. He hasn’t had any since. “Should I occasionally give him some still”?? I keep fresh pellets out daily but they have yet to take to them. It’s ok ,I’m still waiting. They are getting more vegs. so bit less seed. No sunflower at all in mix.

 

[lks91]

That’s good to know, what’s going within the beak. I had started him out slow in July with approx 1 to 1 1/2 drops MT so not to overwhelm him at his age. Then 2drop MT every 2 day.mid Aug back to every 3rd day. He was always real receptive of it until that morning Aug22 and his demeanor changed, couldn’t catch him, he was NOT having it! That’s when I realized his beak was fixed. He hasn’t had any since. “Should I occasionally give him some still”?? I keep fresh pellets out daily but they have yet to take to them. It’s ok ,I’m still waiting. They are getting more vegs. so bit less seed. No sunflower at all in mix.

Its not possible to know for sure without blood test to check how are her liver enzymes, maybe they are already good, maybe you should use milk thistle for some more time... without testing is just a blind guess judging only the external sympthoms of the bird. The important is to focus on a pellets based diet from now on to ensure the liver will not be attacked again by the excessive oils and low variation of nutrients from the seeds. I would recommend the use of milk thistle for until you know your bird accepted the pellets as main food, which should not take so long now after all this time in treatment.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

I started back yesterday with the MT so I’ll be doing every third day. Thanks!

 

[lks91]

I started back yesterday with the MT so I’ll be doing every third day. Thanks!

Just to be clear, what I mean is, if your bird has liver issues or suspected liver issues due to beak overgrow or yellowing of feathers, and you have no option to take the bitd to the vet, provide milk thistle for 2 months at minimum. And in this period you work with the adaptation for pellets. After these two months, you decide if you keep or not the milk thistle for a longer period, but I recommend to keep until you ensure your bird is eating pellets instead of seeds as main food. The use of milk thistle is described in a previous comment. Liver restoration takes some time.

 

[pmfrizzle77]

Good point!