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First Time Hand Feeding ! HELP

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#1 ·
Today I been to the pet market, I saw a baby cockatiel being plucked by his parents, I felt so sorry for the baby, the owner sold it to me for a very cheap price because he couldn't raise it up himself and he didn't want to separate him from his parents ! So I just took it back home.. I knew already it would have the same destiny of "Tiki" my little tiel, if he stayed with his parents he woulda be proper plucked by then ..

I think it's a quite healthy tiel, at least healthier than my previous baby Tiki ..

I guess he is around 2 weeks n more , he got the feathers of the wings fully grown n some of his back but head n face not yet !

The thing is this is gonna be my first time to hand feed a tiel , and Oh My God I'm just TOO NERVOUS ! I don't wanna do it with the syringe I'm too afraid of causing him an aspiration, even though I literary know the way to do it like from the left side to the right but still I don't have enough confidence and courage to do it..


I chose the spoon way ! and it worked .. he had some "cerelac", he had some with the spoon, that was when his stomach was a bit full with his parent's food, now It's being empty, and he refuses to eat from my hands ! I only can see a little bit of yellow thing in his stomach that's all !

I thought he would be crying for food ! But he is just not ! and I don't know when he has enough of the formula ! quite confusing ! ...

I put the baby in a nest box, and there is the bedding as well, I'm just a bit afraid that he eats the material ;/ !

Now he doesn't wanna eat ! I took him to bed he needs to sleep ! but his stomach is empty .. only a bit of food in it !

How long does a baby tiel survive without food ? I'm too nervous to wake up in the morning n see him dead ! HE JUST REFUSES TO EAT ! that's weird ! other tiels cry for food n he just gives me his back when I have a try ! even though this noon he had some food with the spoon ! but for dinner no ! n now he is sleeping quite hungry I think ! coz as i said no enough i think

What would u advice me to do ?
 
#53 · (Edited)
I believe he is doing well or I can say WAY MUCH BETTER than this morning for accepting the hand feeding ! he is kinda being used to it n understands it's food !

he is still a bit red ! but I think he is quite active ! He is not lazy ! only after feeding him he feels a bit sleepy !
But He is active as I said "I donno if this is normal or not" but he keeps on pulling his feathers "not plucking them, I think he is trying to pluck ! I'm not sure" but I think he is just trying to clean them ...

P.s. he stands on foot properly and moves around normally

It's 8:50pm Now ! Crop is half full he is rejecting to eat now, and I don't wanna force him
Today he was fed on 9:00am , 1:00pm , 5:00pm ! But lol when each feeding progress took 40-50 minutes I ruined the chart ! I want 12:00pm to be the last feeding ..
Food is not fully digested till now in his crop and I don't wanna force him to eat !

I don't know if I should feed him twice till 12:00pm or one time only ! but I want to know that if I make 11:00pm his last meal , is he gonna survive till 8:00 morning ? how long do chicks survive without food ?
 
#54 ·
As srtiels said your bird should be fed 3 times a day, first thing in the morning 6 or 7 am, about noon or 1 and right before bed, about 10 pm or so. Feeding him more will cause him to regress not progress. That's probably why his crop is not emptying, your feeding him too much or too close together. Try the 3 times a day and see if his crop doesn't empty.
 
#55 ·
As srtiels said your bird should be fed 3 times a day, first thing in the morning 6 or 7 am, about noon or 1 and right before bed, about 10 pm or so. Feeding him more will cause him to regress not progress. That's probably why his crop is not emptying, your feeding him too much or too close together. Try the 3 times a day and see if his crop doesn't empty.
Today was the first day ! he was dehydrated that's why I fed him that much ! plus I fed him 4 times today .. starting from 8:00am-10:00pm , and his crop was going empty so I couldn't leave him like that ! I fed him at 10:00pm and I'll do it again in the morning 6:00am ! I'll make sure the crop is empty before feeding him ...

when I fed him at 8:00am - 1:00pm - 5:00pm his crop was going empty .. but I had to wait from 5:00pm-10:00pm till it went empty again, then I fed him and took him to sleep ..
 
#56 ·
At this age you want to introduce soft foods like millet and veggies. Being a little hungry could help wean him to solid foods. Offer him pellets and cut up veggies, apples, and a good seed mix. See if he doesn't pick at them. Do you have him in a cage yet? You should probably transfer him to the cage during the day so he can nibble on stuff without making a mess in his bedding. Put the feed dishes on the floor of the cage and his perches low in the cage so he doesn't fall.
 
#58 ·
I don't know if I should feed him twice till 12:00pm or one time only ! but I want to know that if I make 11:00pm his last meal , is he gonna survive till 8:00 morning ? how long do chicks survive without food ?

as i suggested earlier in this thread...

a 3-4 week old chick can go with a 12 hour period overnight with no food
but leave seeds/pellets/millitte down at all times for baby to pick at saucer....
and handfeed every 6 hours apart during day time hours... so 3 x a day

how many times did you feed him today so far?
 
#59 ·
and i time schedual you would probably like would be ...

feed baby at 11am 5pm final feed at 11 pm

but offer fruits/veggies/sprouts,w wheat toast no margarine/butter for a half hour each day at mid day aprox(1-330pm)
millit/seeds /pellets always available in saucer on cage floor all day throughout day
 
#60 · (Edited)
Do you have him in a cage yet? You should probably transfer him to the cage during the day so he can nibble on stuff without making a mess in his bedding.
Yeah I do have him in a cage during the day .. but when It's his sleeping time over night I put him in the nest box..


I hope that he's just trying to preen the feathers. His skin might be irritated from being plucked and it might also be itchy from new feathers starting to grow in so you might see him beaking his own skin. Let's hope that he isn't skillful enough yet to pluck himself.
Why Would he pluck himself if it's right ? what makes a tiel plucking himself ??


a 3-4 week old chick can go with a 12 hour period overnight with no food
but leave seeds/pellets/millitte down at all times for baby to pick at saucer....
and handfeed every 6 hours apart during day time hours... so 3 x a day
I'm afraid he is too dehydrated for that coz he is still a bit red, or at least not as when we brought him from his parents nest ... his crop was somehow full but skin was white and bright ... now it's more red than being white ...


how many times did you feed him today so far?
I fed him 4 times yesterday ! 9:00am , 1:00pm , 5:00pm , 10:00pm

and I was waiting till his crop was going empty ! between the the first three meals his crop was going empty quickly, but as I told u before on the third meal he started to eat himself and come for the syringe "or I can say at least not refusing it" .. so he had quite enough for his crop to wait until 10:00pm ...

It's 7:00am now in my country ... I fed him at 6:30am , that was when I woke up and his crop was PROPER EMPTY ! ..

First u told me to feed him until he gets his color back .. and as I'm seeing that he is still a bit red ! how about feeding him today 4 times as well like
6:30am
12:00am
6:00pm
11:00pm

Making sure his crop goes empty or TOO little food in it, n for tomorrow I would start 11:00am .. 5:00pm .. 11:00pm ..

Do u think it's a good idea ?

and I will offer him veggies, seeds/pellets/millitte in his cage he might start having them :D
 
#61 · (Edited)
yes those times are good for his age ,for now... because hes still dehydrated looking you say.

you can give 1 extra hand feeding if hes still red ..at above 4 x times you listed
but once he goes light pinkish/white color as in picture i posted

then go to 3x a day ....when skin color is normal color...
3x/day is for 3-4 week old chick or older. ex: 11am,5pm,11pm
was what i was try to say you understood me correctly the 1st time i told you.

but because he is older then 3-4 weeks he should be also offered veggies,fruit for only 1/2 hr periods each mid day
and seeds/pellets/millitte in his cage all the time
he might start nibbling on these between handfeedings
 
#62 ·
as said by tielfan, his skin might be red because of being plucked, not dehydration :)
 
#63 ·
I'll Do That Mitch :) ..


DallyTsuka, In fact when I brought him, his skin was white, and he wasn't plucked so badly by parents as my previous tiel ... when I got him the parents I think just started plucking him ..
The reason why I think his skin is red is that I didn't feed him properly for the first day coz I was too scared of holding a syringe .. that's why he got dehydrated ! :( .. But Now he feels much better :D
 
#65 ·
Again :( He rejects it ! He refuses to eat .. But I feed him 5 ml every 3 hours his crop goes empty and he gets interested in food ! I donno why He stops and rejects so badly ..

My cockatiel does not scream !! I heard it make a low "weet" 4-5 times so far .. but he doesn't usually do it ! and he is still red .. I'm just making sure to feed him every time his crop goes empty or seeing a very tiny amount of food in it ! ..

He went too hungry today for minutes when his crop was empty so I was watching if he woulda go to the fruits n millets I put ! he was biting the plate --" !! then he went to his poop !! then I just gave him 5 ml but he stopped and refused having the rest so bad .. after 2-3 hours I gave him the other 5 ml !

This is so tough n stressful when u donno someone's language !!! I wish I was a mind reader --" !
 
#66 ·
the fruits/veggies/sprouts for a 1/2 hour period/daily
he might no eat these right away but keep offering it each day,the more he sees it he will eat it.
right now he might not realize this is also food so keep it up he'll catch on its food soon
and so you dont waste too much only give a little bit.

millit/seeds/pellets all day on saucer on cage floor.

also the older a chick gets it will refuse food from hand feeding utensil.
you just have to ensure he is eating at least 3x a day
 
#67 ·
I let his crop go empty ! he tried to pick some millets :D ! I was so happy then he cried for food ! when I showed him the syringe he came straight away to it and started having it slowly bit by bit .. I don't put the syringe in his beak and push it ! I just show him the syringe with the food he starts clicking on the food and eat it slowly .. as when u feed a tiel with a spoon .. He had enough this time .. But I think he swallowed some air and he is not letting me to do massage for him , it's like a really tiny balloon *as I think because he had a lot this time compared with the previous feeding* ... he is not acting weird .. Nor moving his neck up or down even not trying to breath weirdly ! ... he is just feeling sleepy as always when gets fed up ... so I think that's alright yeah ?
 
#69 ·
he was biting the plate
It takes chicks a little while to figure out where the food is coming from! When we handfeed with a syringe, the chick learns that it gets food when it bites the hard plastic. But when we offer food in other ways the chick is supposed to ignore the hard part and go directly to the food.

When my chicks are about 5-6 weeks old they don't want to eat from a syringe and prefer to eat from a spoon instead. But at first they try to get the formula by grabbing the edge of the spoon and chugging. They don't get much food that way and it takes a few days for them to figure out they should stick their beak in the soft stuff instead.
 
#70 ·
he should be fine :D
I think I'm just way too worried :D

It takes chicks a little while to figure out where the food is coming from! When we handfeed with a syringe, the chick learns that it gets food when it bites the hard plastic. But when we offer food in other ways the chick is supposed to ignore the hard part and go directly to the food.

When my chicks are about 5-6 weeks old they don't want to eat from a syringe and prefer to eat from a spoon instead. But at first they try to get the formula by grabbing the edge of the spoon and chugging. They don't get much food that way and it takes a few days for them to figure out they should stick their beak in the soft stuff instead.
Thanks a lot good to know that :)