Hi, and welcome to the forum

Please read: http://www.talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=27124 In the link it suggests to use the search box, which will give you a listing of past postings and what others have done. Here is one example: http://www.talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=2678

This link explains the importance of calcium (AND FSL lighting is essential): http://www.talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=19866

Even if you can not afford a vet there may be other options: http://www.talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=26919

Posting clear pix's of the eggs, and any other concerns would be very helpful.

 

Welcome to the forum... Could you take a pic of her to help us

 

Pics taken



I finally figured it out from photobucket....Zoe does not act sick and you can see she is wanting her head petted...But I am scared because it looks like the pic you posted...Please let me know what I can do Thanks..Hope everyone can see the pics..

 

Whats Normal I need HELP??

I am literally freaking out ever since I read about egg bind...What is normal when a cockatiel has eggs in her?????....How long does it take to expell the first egg? I have only had my birds for 7 years..This is the first time my girl has ever had eggs in her...I seen it yesterday she had what looked like an egg not protruding ..now today it is protruding alot more..Is this the way they lay eggs..I do not have a clue..Am I worrying for No reason? WHAT IS NORMAL....I did not want to breed...I just dont want this to kill my sweet bird..I just need to know whats a normal process..How long should that egg be protruding before it is not a good thing..

 

ZOE my cockatiel

I noticed today she has more of what looks like an egg protuding more..She is also sitting on the bottom of the cage..She is fluffed up but not breathing heavy ...Her being fluffed up is what made me concered she was ill..This was a couple of days ago...then yester day we saw the bulg coming from her butt area..I looked today and it is out more...I have no clue how birds have babies..She is 7 and ,she has never laid an egg.I just want to know what is normal...I would take a pic..But she is on the bottom of cage..Im afraid it will disturb the egg laying...I never wanted to breed....I am just really worried for my sweet bird.....I am praying...

 

My hen usually has visible egg bum for 2 days. The first day it is noticeable but not as large.. second day it is larger. There will also be a change in her poop. Really LARGE droppings/clumps. My advice would be that if you do NOT see any of this *egg poop* to take her to an Avian Vet asap. If you do find this egg poop.. I would expect an egg probably tomorrow at the latest. If no egg tomorrow.. I think again I would suggest a run to an Avian Vet. But yes, this egg bum is normal when a hen is getting ready to lay.

 

ZOE my cockatiel

Thank you..I feel somewhat better...I am not sure if I see larger bird poop as she is in the cage with another bird..I did see a string of mucous that looked like it had poop in it coming from the butt area..

 

I just matched up your post with your others. Please do as the others who responded to your post asked and post pics of her as there could be other issues at play. Also, please post those pics under the other thread and continue with your questions under the other thread. It can get quite confusing for you to have new threads everywhere. There are some very experienced people on here, so if you answer their questions they can guide you along.

 

Please....you need to be more specific. Is this bulge to the abdomen or a buldge of tissue from the vent?

 

Bulge of tissue from the vent...or egg

 

I noticed today she has more of what looks like an egg protuding more.

These are only thoughts of your problem, since you have not posted pix's...

Worst case scenario...
With fingers crossed I hope you do not mean something like this? (click for a larger view) In the first pix this is a prolapse of the uterus encasing an egg in the tissue. This is serious and would put her her at a 95% death rate if not seen by a vet. There are some things you can do.....but need more info, if this is what you have.

The 2nd pix shows peritonitus. Look at the hen on the perch, if your hens abdomen looks alot smaller than that then this would not be the immediate problem.

 

We can't really help you figure out what's going on if you don't help us by answering our questions. Please continue following your other thread; respond to questions that others have asked, and post pictures of your bird's bum.

We don't ask questions to waste your time or make you think about unnecessary things. We ask questions to better understand what is going on with your bird. We have the bird's best interest at heart and we find it difficult to respond properly to posts when people cannot show us pictures or answer the important questions.

This can be a life or death situation for you bird...

 

She does not appear to be in any pain but her eyes look half shut..I just do not know what is normal..I will see if I can get a pic..

 

Hi Pam, eyes half shut means she's in pain and not well. She will try to act normal as to not draw attention to herself, but she isn't feeling normal at all. As everyone is saying, get her to the vet as soon as you can - it looks like they will need to surgically remove the egg. Good luck.

 

I took pics

Now I have to figure out how to post them..Please reply and let me know..Mean while I will be looking on here on how to post pictures..

 

Heres the thread on how to post pics, http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=20204.

Or if you have a photobucket account ( its free) you can upload the pics there and then copy the IMG code of the pics you want and then paste them in your post. Whatevers easier for you.

 

 

If you really care about your bird then please, either post a picture here ASAP or take her to the vet ASAP. If there is actually anything wrong then her life may be at stake, and we can't do anything for you without good pictures that show what's happening. The word descriptions haven't been clear enough. If there is anything unusual that is actually sticking out of her vent then it sounds like a prolapse, which can be fixed if it's treated promptly, but the longer you delay the more difficult the situation will become.

Edited to add: the photos were posted in a different thread at the exact same time I made this post. After I found out I merged the two threads, so it all looks a little crazy. The photos are now in the post above this one.

 

Im no expert but those look like Srtiels pictures of a prolapse!!

 

I'm not an expert on thes things but that does not look normal. It's probably a prolapse but I don't know for sure. srtiels is an expert on these things but it's very late and she may have gone to bed. This is something that she posted earlier:

"If it is a prolapse the most important thing that needs to be done is she has to keep the tissue moist and not allow to dry out. if it dries out it is not repairable. She can't be wishy washy to not try to handle the bird. She has to see what is going on.

If it is a normal prolapse without the egg incased it is easily fixed at home, which I have done several times and could describe."

Do you have access to an emergency avian vet? If this was my bird I would take her in right away.

P.S. Having two different threads to look at is making it difficult to keep tabs on the situation. I'm going to try and merge this one with the other one.

 

That's what it is... Take your bird to the vet ASAP or it can kill her. Is there a vet you can hav her seen by tomorrow on an emergency basis? I am sure you could work pympts out? most are willing to do what they can to help people out. Please Pam you need to have this baby seen IMMEDIATELY! I am not an expert by any means but based on the photos srtiels posted, that is what you have going on.

 

Oh dear.. take your bird to an Avian Vet, or else you are going to kill her if you leave it.

 

How sad, please take her to a vet before its too late.

 

You need to keep the tissues moist until you can get the bird to a vet. The tissue will die if it dries out. My guess is that the egg IS involved in this so it's not a do it yourself job.

 

How do I keep the tissues moist ??

 

This is horrible ..I have no money and my credit is shot...My husband killed himself in 07...I would give her to someone who can pay to save her..This is a good bird..I dont want her to pass because of my inability to pay!!I would do anything to help her..IT IS NOT BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO..I am not afraid to handle or touch her..I am just worried because of my situation now I am going to lose my bird....I AM VERY UPSET!

 

If you truly cannot afford vet care, then you may need to surrender her to someone who can get her the proper care. If this is not treated very soon, she will die. I am not saying that to be harsh, it is simply true. Are there any rescues in your area? Would the vet accept a payment plan? Honestly, if this were my bird, I would show up at the vet and just beg them to consider the situation. I think it would be hard for them to refuse help.

Here is a previous thread where srtiels describes how to keep the tissue moist: http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=20655&highlight=prolapse
HOWEVER, since the egg seems to be contained within the prolapse in your bird, PLEASE DO NOT try to push it back inside of her. If the egg breaks, she will be in even more serious condition.

 

There is something called Care Credit that will help you get credit to pay the vet bill, and if you explain your situation to the vet they might reduce the fee for you. There's information on Care Credit at http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=26919

 

The Care Credit website at http://www.carecredit.com/ can help you locate an avian vet in your area. Under Find a Doctor, select Veterinary in the middle box, then Veterinary Other in the third box. This will bring up a fourth box that lets you select Avian, or After Hours/24 hours. You need a vet who is experienced with birds though, a typical dog and cat vet might not be able to help you.

 

How do I keep the tissues moist ??

I have no experience so I'm having to web search for answers. There are some recommendations at http://www.holisticbird.org/pages/hens.htm Do NOT do the part where it says to reinsert the tissues with a cotton swab - if an egg is protruding from the body along with the uterine tissue you will break the egg and that will make things worse. I have also seen recommendations to use saline solution and to moisten the area with warm wet cloth. If this was my bird I would mist the area as they suggest in that link.