I hope they don't abandon the eggs, mabey take the toys out of the cage? It sounds mean but mabey it will help for now. Hope it works out for you.

 

I wouldn't take the nest box down until the eggs are past due. You wouldn't want to trigger more egg laying, even if they barely sit on them.

 

I would not take the nest box down either. I am not sure if this is a reply to my post but I said to take out the toys not the nest box

 

It was a reply to Aly's post saying that if they didn't sit overnight she would take the nest box down.

If neither of them sit on them overnight the box will come down.

 

Oh ok :blush: I think it is time for bed

 

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry to say but this breeding journal is over. Everyone keeps telling me this happens sometimes with first time parents but it doesn't make it hurt any less. Baby #1 and #2 are still alive and moving as of tonight, all the others passed. I can't even explain how I feel right now just that I'm balling my eyes out. Many many thanks to everyone who's been here for me thru this.

 

You will probably find you have more luck when Ziggy is a bit older, 5-6 months could make the difference in the amount of time he'll spend sitting on the eggs. All the same, i'm sorry that this clutch didn't work out. I can only imagine how heart broken you must be feeling. *hugs*

 

Iam sorry it did not work out. Mabey when Ziggy is older you could try again.

 

oh Aly, i really feel for you...
although 2 babies are a lot easier to care for than 5
to make a cheaper incubator, but one that involves a lot more monitoring, go to an aquarium/terrarium store (a pet shop that sells fish and reptile stuff- any pet shop selling this will do) and buy a 'heat mat/pad' for a lizard or snake, and also a thermometer...
then set the heat mat up in a box, with towels over the top, then monitor the heat, when you have a good stable temperature, put the eggs in a layer of towel with the best temp, making sure the eggs are covered on all sides, then you just have to watch and turn the eggs...
this will work if they decide to abandon the babies when they are close to hatching....
i am sure it will all happen when it is meant to
they love each other, and are both healthy and have a lot of time, and have a wonderful caring mother, so just don't worry!
maybe they just decided they had 'bitten off more than they could chew' with 5 babies....
and indeed a couple more months experience will do wonders, maybe this was just a 'trial run'
good luck Aly, Baby and Ziggy and the 2 remaining children

 

Oh aly, i'm so sorry but don't give up on them yet. They still have two good eggs to be sitting on. Maybe they did bite off more then they could chew or both just wasn't ready. If they don't pull through with this clutch then i guess its time for a break.

 

Aly I am sorry. I guess this is what really makes it hard. It is really like having children of your own, just with feathers. I am sure that their next clutch will thrive! Are there still 2 babies? I hope that will at least work out for you. You have worked so hard!
For what it is worth, you have made a great teacher Take a break and then when the time is right, try again!

 

Sorry to hear that Aly. The Best Of Luck with the surviving 2 ! *fingers crossed everyone*

 

Thanks. For anyone intrested here's the update-
It's been a long day and night. I've thought of everything and I had two options. Leave them to chill and die or try to improvise. I don't have any hopes at this point that this will acctually work and bring them succesfully to hatching but it worth a try at this point. The other option means not doing anything at all and I wanted to atleast try. The eggs went on a towel with a heating pad under them. On the pad there's also a bowl with a wet sponge which so far is doing a good job at keeping the humidity just right. I set it up in a way where it's allowing ventilation in there and I'm turning them as needed for now. The last three days they won't need turning. The temp has been a stable 99-100F with small periods of slight cooling down which are needed at this point. With that said, I got almost no sleep last night. Much to my suprize, they made it through the night. As of 5pm today #1 and #2 are very much alive and active-moving around inside. Like I said, I don't expect this to work but I couldn't just do nothing at all. #3 is also still showing signs of life but it's earlier in the incubation so I'm not sure how it'll go. Thanks for reading.

 

I hope it works out for you, good luck

 

We are praying for you all here! Keep hope!

 

I Wish you the very best of luck!! I really hope your incubation goes well, did Baby & Ziggy notice they were gone ??

 

Thank you all. If nothing atleast I tried.

did Baby & Ziggy notice they were gone ??

Not at all. They could care less. I showed Baby where the eggs are and she tapped them each once and came back out. They're not intrested in them at all. They've been playing like little monkeys today and I think they just got bored being that it was their first time. I love them regardless just feel bad for the bubs since they are so close.

 

I really think the major problem was Ziggy's age. He still wants to be a baby himself. He should've been taking on the task of sitting on the eggs a lot more, and Baby should've been letting him. Good luck with the eggs, but i think you'll have much better luck when Ziggy is a bit older.

 

I don't doubt that had something to do with it and I don't doubt that it would go better when he's older. At first she didn't let him sit at all. Toward the end he was sitting on the eggs but she was there with him most of the time. My guess is she didn't fully trust him. He did the best he could under the circumstances and they both seem relieved to be "kids" again. I don't blame them for getting bored. It happens, esspecially when the work is spilt 80/20. Either way I learned alot and I wouldn't do anything differently. I also lost a friend in the process who I thought would be there for me during this experience but it didn't work out that way. With that said, they are probably glad things happen this way and their point was made. To me this wasn't a who's right and who's wrong. Some probably changed their opinion about me too because of the decision I made. That's just how things go sometimes, you can't please everybody. Either way, it's over with now and I'm just focused on doing everything I can to save these bubs.

 

I don't doubt that had something to do with it and I don't doubt that it would go better when he's older. At first she didn't let him sit at all. Toward the end he was sitting on the eggs but she was there with him most of the time. My guess is she didn't fully trust him. He did the best he could under the circumstances and they both seem relieved to be "kids" again. I don't blame them for getting bored. It happens, esspecially when the work is spilt 80/20. Either way I learned alot and I wouldn't do anything differently. I also lost a friend in the process who I thought would be there for me during this experience but it didn't work out that way. With that said, they are probably glad things happen this way and their point was made. To me this wasn't a who's right and who's wrong. Some probably changed their opinion about me too because of the decision I made. That's just how things go sometimes, you can't please everybody. Either way, it's over with now and I'm just focused on doing everything I can to save these bubs.

If you lost a friend due to this are you sure they were a friend to start with? This seems pretty stupid to loose a friend over.

 

Friends don't always agree on things but they're still there for eachother so you have a very good point. It's not a public issue so I'll leave it at that. I just really appreciate everyone who has followed the thread.

 

i am so glad you made this thread Aly!
i know now that i was kidding myself to think that i was ready, when i tried to let my budgie pair breed a few months ago...
it lost me my beautiful darling Queen, and i still think it was the worst thing loosing Queen, but in a way i am glad that the babies never came to pass, as i now dont think i was ready for it...
i know now to go and buy all my supplies, fake eggs, non toxic glue, heat mat etc... waaay before i even think about breeding again...

i was set up, i know of many people successfully breeding with less than i had... i was just not set up to the level i would have liked

although now that i have seen a real budgie egg, and fake budgie eggs, i realize that what Queen was trying to pass was 'twins'... the egg that came out of her was almost the size of a tiels egg!
so regardless, there was not much i could have done better- apart from the obvious... take her to a better vet

 

i seen your story debree and it was very sad. Poor gal. It's hard to breed and it does have a lot of heart ache in it. I think i'm lucky so far to not have ran into any troubles.

 

I am sorry that you lost a friend over this, but saving the bubs is your main focus now! Don't let people get in your way! I really hope it works out! GOOD LUCK!!

 

how are the egg's doing today.. im praying everything goes ok for you

 

Oh Aly...I just read thru this thread since I last posted and I'm at a loss of words. I'm so sorry...I really hope these babies make it. Please keep us updated.

 

Its sad that you lost the eggs, but lets hope that the last ones survive. I agree with everybody else, Ziggy will probably be better when he's older. Speaking of Ziggys, mine isn't too much better. Izzy sits on her egg most of the time, But shes always been like that, and Ziggy sits right outside the box watching her.:blink:

 

Thanks everyone. Keep hoping and praying. So far it's working.
As of 10pm, four babies (#1,#2,#3 and #4) are alive and well. Acctually very active in that little egg. Airsacks are progressing nice, got to handfeed a three day old tiel today at this place by my house..Everything is ready for them-all they need to do is keep fighting. Me on the other hand, not so active since I have to get up every hour to turn the heating pad back on (it has an auto 60min shut off). Doesn't matter-whatever it takes, I'm doing it. Fifty five minute power naps are just fine for now. I wish you could see them move around inside the eggs. It's really amazing. *Fingers crossed this works*

 

Glad to hear that they are still doing well Thats great that you are learning handfeeding Could you get some kind of reptile heating pad that won't shut of every hour?