[Sebastiananddaisy]

Hi!
I have a WF male and lutino female - they’ve just had their first clutch. All babies look pearl - but some of the chest feathers look almost olive.
Are these plain pearl? Or could they be olive/cinnamon?

thanks!!

 

[Misstiel]

They look like pearl to me. The father must be a pearl or split to pearl in order for you to have pearl chicks. Also, they will be females due to genetics.

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

They look like pearl to me. The father must be a pearl or split to pearl in order for you to have pearl chicks. Also, they will be females due to genetics.

Thanks!!! I thought this was the case too.

I'd love to see if I can a breeding pair that has WF pearl chicks. If I was to get a WF male and bred it with one of these girls, would we get WF pearl chicks?

 

[Misstiel]

In order for you to get whiteface pearl chicks, you would have to get a whiteface pearl male or a whiteface split to pearl male because in order for you to get pearl chicks, the male has to have the pearl gene. According to what you said the parents' mutations are, then all the pearl chicks that you have right now are split to whiteface. So as long as you get one of these girls a whiteface pearl mate, then yes, you will get whiteface pearl chicks. If you don't know if the whiteface male has pearl in him, you can still get whiteface from the pair, but it won't be guaranteed that you get pearl.

 

[Misstiel]

I just thought of it right now, but do you know if your lutino cockatiel has pearls?

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

I just thought of it right now, but do you know if your lutino cockatiel has pearls?

Thanks - this info is so informative! Still trying to wrap my head around how the genetics work! I can't see any pearls on the lutino mum - she's just solid yellow. I've just taken the last chick out to hand rear (I only had three out before) the grey is much much lighter than the other three! I'll post a photo below.

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

This is the one I just took out - this is the first clutch from the mum and dad and they were pulling feathers out of the babies (I took them out one by one until the plucking stopped!) we’re going to seperate mum and dad now cause I hear this will likely happen again?
Anyway, this ones greys are even lighter than the siblings! She’s very pretty!

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

 

[Misstiel]

Okay, the reason I was asking about the lutino mom was because if she had pearls, then the chicks could be either male or female, but since you said that she doesn't, then you most likely have female pearl chicks. And yes, genetics can be very confusing!!!!! I've been researching LOTS lately because it's been very fascinating to me recently. Awww, it's too bad that they started plucking; I had that with my cockatiel when he was a chick as well so I had to go to hand feeding. Yes, usually the parents will pluck their chicks because they want to double clutch so they want them out of the nest. Wow, she is much lighter! She might be a cinnamon pearl, then. If she is, then your male whiteface would be split to cinnamon as well as pearl. Do you have a picture of your male? Do you know if he is a cinnamon whiteface?

 

[Misstiel]

When the crest was coming in on your chicks, was it yellow or grey? I'm asking because I have two chicks in the nest, and they both have grey crests coming in.

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

When the crest was coming in on your chicks, was it yellow or grey? I'm asking because I have two chicks in the nest, and they both have grey crests coming in.

So all of the crests are a mix of yellow and grey (some have more grey and some have more yellow).
And yes - here are photos of both Sebastian and Daisy. Both were hand raised but Daisy isn’t a fan of us - Sebastian is the social butterfly out of the two haha.

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

I think you’re on the mark about doubleclutching hahaha. (We’ll be building them a new cage this week - they desperately need one!)

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

Here are the babies 😅

 

[Misstiel]

Okay, thanks! I'll have to wait and see as the feathers grow in on my chicks to see if they're pearls or not, then. Sebastian is definitely not a cinnamon whiteface which means if your one chick is a cinnamon pearl, then Sebastian is split to cinnamon. And yes, the one on the bottom right definitely looks like she is cinnamon. Daisy looks just like my lutino, Meringue.

 

[tielfan]

It looks to me like mum has a light brownish color on her tail. If this is the actual color of her tail (not dirt or the lighting) then she is cinnamon lutino. I don't see any pearl markings, but it's often difficult to see pearl markings on a lutino. If any of your pearl chicks turn out to be male, that is proof that mom is pearl.

All your current chicks are pearl, and it looks like one is cinnamon and two are grey. Pearl markings make it harder to tell the difference between cinnamon and grey, so we might think differently after they've feathered out more.

Cinnamon, lutino and pearl are all sex-linked mutations, with different inheritance rules for girls and boys. It's a hard concept to understand when you first start trying to learn it, but I have an article on it here if you'd like to try: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/info/breed-sexlinked.html

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

Okay, thanks! I'll have to wait and see as the feathers grow in on my chicks to see if they're pearls or not, then. Sebastian is definitely not a cinnamon whiteface which means if your one chick is a cinnamon pearl, then Sebastian is split to cinnamon. And yes, the one on the bottom right definitely looks like she is cinnamon. Daisy looks just like my lutino, Meringue.

Ohh your Meringue is gorgeous!! So they have a few more feathers now - three look really similar (normal pearl) and one looks a bit different. I’ve noticed the grey is much lighter and she(?) also has pink feet - all the others have darker feet. The female (mum) of these guys has a yellow tail -the tail isn’t actually that colour haha I think it was just dirty in the photo!

what do you guys think??

 

[Misstiel]

Yes, the one on the left definitely looks like a cinnamon while the other two look like normals.

 

[Sebastiananddaisy]

Yes, the one on the left definitely looks like a cinnamon while the other two look like normals.

Thanks! I might get a DNA test to see if they’re all females for sure!