[jenene283]

Hi
I have only just joined your forum and am looking forward to meeting you all. My lutino cock and not sure what the hen is (she is a silvery colour) have just had their first clutch. I was expecting at least a few lutinos but all the chicks are very dark with white tips on the end of their feathers. Can someone please tell me what mutation they are?

 

[kimmikefids]

do they have orange cheeks???? they sound like normal greys if they have orange cheeks....otherwise they are normal whitefaces....if you could put a photo up it would help.....even tho the father is a lutino it doesn't necessarily mean you will have visual lutinos...as the case with your babies....

http://www.kirstenmunson.com/cockatiels/blue.html
this will tell you what babies you would have...tho you would need to find out what the mother is which if you put a photo up im sure we could advise

http://www.cockatielsplusparrots.com/mutations-genome.html
http://www.cockatiel.org/mutations/index.html
these are the different mutations

Hope it helps

 

[jenene283]

They dont have orange cheeks. I am trying to re-size the photos I have as they are too big. Photobucket wont co-operate with me

 

[Renae]

Try: http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ to resize them.

And: www.tinypic.com to upload them or save them once you have resized them and upload them from your photobucket then.

 

[kimmikefids]

if they don't have orange patches then they are a whiteface...and from you saying dark grey i would say they aren't a cinnamon or pied.....when u upload the photo onto photobucket....click on edit above the actual picture...once the editing panel opens select resize and make largest size 500 then save a copy....then take IMG code and post in the thread...hope that helps...id love to see the little tiels to be absolutely sure

 

[jenene283]

This is one of them, photo is about 5 days old. I will post another one tomorrow!

 

[kimmikefids]

its kind of hard to tell with the feathers not being open but i suspect they are normal whitefaces....the dark grey feathers all over as well as the white patches along the edge of the wings indicates that.....they are too dark to be cinnamons i believe and i don't think they are normal greys as i can't even see a hint of orange in the cheeks...im not sure if they could also be pied and/or pearls...depends on what the feathers look like opened...i hope this helps you....i would say you have a clutch of normal whitefaces....that little one is adorable

 

[atvchick95]

they're normal grey

if they were white face the down would be white and it is Yellow u can see it on the back the fuzzy yellow is the down

here is my normal grey baby - Older then yours but he/she has looked like this since the day he/she started feathering out

 

[allen]

untill the feathers come in on the cheeks all the way it is hard to say if they will be white face is with miracle hers was the last on her face to come in with yours there is still a patch to come in but yours is a common grey from what we can see so far

 

[sweetrsue]

I see a touch of orange cheek patch in the first photo. atvchick is right. So is Allen. It's far too hard to tell at 5 days. By the way that bird is sure betting feathers fast! I don't usually see pinfeathers that fast. If Dad is a Lutino statistically you should have gotten some Lutino girl babies. But if there are none it could be that you have all boys. If that's the case they are all split to Lutino.

 

[bigmikey36]

lol pssst....the photo is 5 days old not the bird
Mikey

 

[atvchick95]

this is what a white face tiel would like like when it's born - White down, The other is yellow down (it's a pearl)

this was a Lutino @ 9 days old

 

[jenene283]

Today I have noticed two of the chicks developing orange spots on their cheeks so they must be normals? and the other one I think will be a white face? I think!

 

[kimmikefids]

well i was half right....gotta give the non-breeder points there

 

[jenene283]

:thumbu: You did well kimmikefids, I am only a beginner so between us we're doing OK !!

 

[tielfan]

Like several others said... you can identify whiteface chicks the moment they hatch because they have white down instead of yellow. Lutinos are also immediately identifiable because of the eye color - dark-eyed chicks have huge dark spots, while the red eyes of lutinos blend in with the skin color to the point that it almost looks like they don't have eyes. So when you finally get some lutino chicks you'll know it right away. The lutinos also tend to be much balder at birth than the others, and it takes longer for the back of their heads to feather in.

My own limited experience is that the statistical averages don't mean much. I have a whiteface hen mated to a normal grey male that the breeder said was split whiteface. So on average half the chicks were expected to be whiteface, but there were zero among the first 8 chicks. I'd decided that the breeder was wrong about the split when suddenly the 9th and 10th chicks turned out to be whiteface cinnamon and whiteface lutino. That's right, there were a couple of other splits that I wasn't expecting! The first 8 chicks included four greys, two regular lutinos, and two regular cinnamons.

 

[jenene283]

Well from this photo I definately have a whiteface !!

 

[tielfan]

Yes, that does look like white fuzz on the younger chick!

 

[huskymom]

do you have pics of the parents?...

congrats on the babies!!.. definaltely you have a whiteface baby there.. YAY!

 

[kimmikefids]

i was right by default!!!! hahaha.....im only a beginner myself but have been researching and reading on this forum and i think my learning is paying off....they are so cute....little balls of fluff....im thinking we might need some new photos soon tho