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So I took Schubert in for a vet appointment monday that originated as a look at watery poop he's had, but by the time the vet came in to see him, his poop was normal again. He said if in 48 hours it wasn't better to give him a call for antibiotics. Well, his poop is watery again and I called last night to inquire about the meds. He said to call them in in the morning and that's all he could do right now. He never told me what kind, how long, or how they'd be administered (until I asked, which he said syringe, when I asked if there was a way that could go over his food I don't think he heard me and said "okay, bye". I really, really am starting to not like this vet). He never even took any tests! He just said the droppings looked fine.

So now Schubert has had on and off wet droppings. The green bits are still mostly solid, maybe broken by the liquid, his urates are still white, though sometimes spread throughout the water, and the water is, well, water. Looks clear, has no odor. No feces are sticking to his underside

Schubert himself has been acting normal. Right now he's singing and hopping around his cage wanting me to let him out. He's been eating and drinking. The only thing I find peculiar is that last night I saw his butt, not his face since his blanket was on, but it looked as if he was drinking and taking 2 or 3 sips when he normally only takes 1, maybe 2.

But then, usually at night, Schubert's poops get normal again. A green circle with white in the middle and maybe a little bit of water around them but nothing out of the ordinary. This morning I watched him take his normal giant morning poop, but then the next hour of poops were wet, and now there's more green in them and the green is becoming more solid with each poop.

I gave his breeder a call, who lives 3 1/2 hours away, and she said without seeing the droppings herself and that the vet didn't take any tests, it would be hard to say if he needs antibiotics or not at this time. She said the water could be associated with the warm weather as well as stress, which I would assume the bad wing clip isn't helping stress levels any.

I'm stumped! This is the second day this week that I've missed work for Schubert and I'm on the verge of driving 2 1/4 hours to the nearest AAV certified avian veterinarian if you guys think it is necessary. I've been trying to call around to the nearest clinics with certified vets, the closest is 2 hours and 9 minutes, but they won't even let me talk to the vet for a consultation without coming in. I'm not sure I trust the vet I've been seeing anymore. I'm afraid to give my bird $40 antibiotics for an unknown length of time since he ran no tests on him and I'm afraid they would do more harm than good.
 

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Please run, don't walk, away from that vet.

Green feces tend to come from a diet high in seeds, greens, or colored pellets; seed poop should be a very dark forest green color. Urates should be white.

Sometimes my guys get watery poops intermittently. Stress can definitely cause it, though it shouldn't last longer than a day or two.

If there's suspicion of an infection, a culture should be done in the very least. Preferably you would want to do a sensitivity test along with it so you can find out which medication(s) will be most effective.
 

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It's usually best to go to a certified avian vet when you can. I personally wouldn't trust my Kirby to anyone else, though I know that some people have no other option. I personally think the long drive is worth it for the specialist. I also agree with Jaguar, get away from that vet as fast as you can! Any medical worker, for humans or animals, who drugs without proper examination is absolutely NOT to be trusted in my book. And with birds being so sensitive, so easily toxicated....you definitely don't want to drug unless necessary. Not to mention that taking antibiotics when you don't have to can build an immunity to them, so that when you do need them they don't work. In summary, I would never contact that other vet again and would be willing to take the drive to the specialist if I were really worried about my bird. All in all, though, it's up to you. Keep us updated, and I hope Schubert gets better soon!
 

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All of the avian vets I've contacted today will be out of office before I finish my drive down to them. Schubert is currently acting normal with normal droppings again, I am going to attempt to make an appointment with a certified vet as soon as I can. I can't miss any more work without repercussions, though, so keep your fingers crossed that we can figure out a time to take him

And believe me. I am done with this vet. I called to inquire about what antibiotics they were prescribing me and a desk worker was the only one at the clinic and she didn't know the name of it because no one made any up for me in the first place. I cannot BELIEVE this is actually happening. I've had trouble with vets before, my other pet is a rabbit which needs just as much specialized care as birds do, but I've never encountered something like this before!
 

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Can you post pics of the poops?

It sounds like relatively normal variation to me, but it's hard to know on the internet, obviously. It doesn't sound like an emergency unless he develops other symptoms IMO.
 

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^ I've already changed his paper from the past few days, but attached is a picture I took the morning before taking him to the vet on Monday. The top ones are dried after the water absorbed a lot of the green color, which is why they appear that yellow. The bottom fresh one is what they've all looked like, just clear with strings of green poop in them. Some bowel movements he had had no green feces in them at all, and these have actually dried completely clear and no longer show up on the newspaper.

Today he's had completely normal poop since 11:30 or noon (it's now 5:30pm where I am). He's tired right now, but I'm thinking that has a role in how I kept nervously getting up and checking on him all night. All day, especially this morning when he was having wet poop again, he's been bouncing all around his cage, singing, talking, waiting patiently by the door for us to let him out, biting the bars near his door so we would let him out, etc.
 

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Obviously I'm not a vet, but I don't see anything really concerning there. It's normal for them to have watery poop when they're stressed, happy, or excited. Your description of his behavior makes me think that's what's happening.
 

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That's what I figured too, but this watery poop has been going on since Saturday, now, and that's what was concerning me enough for a vet visit. I've read that stress related watery droppings only last a day or two, but this is day five and I'm concerned for his water levels. =(
 

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What are they eating? if it is warm and they are drinking lots of water or if they eat lots of fresh wet foods ( veggies for example) they will have wet poops.
 

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No, not all the time, but for a few hours in the morning and a few hours in the evening these past days he's gotten very watery poo. It's nothing he's ever done before, even last summer when it was this hot. It's odd, because when he has the watery droppings it occurs every few minutes, but then everything goes back to normal before going whack again =/
 

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I just want to update that we got Schubert into an avian vet who actually took tests. Small bacterial infection, and he got antibiotics to clear it up.

He's already back to his normal, goofy self again =)
 

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That's really great to hear. What a relief that your Schubert is okay! Thanks for updating :)
 

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Also glad to hear he's better! :clap:
 

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Yaaaaay that he's going to be better! **Does a happy happy dance**
 
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