Good for you :clap: I am so proud of you for taking the bull by the horns and sticking it out I find to they don't "really" want to bite its just a way for them to try and show YOU who is the boss he will learn very quickly who the boss is now and won't feel the need to bite as much once he knows your confident and not going away.Oh now, obviously very early days, but I went for it. Dooby didn't know what hit him (not literally of course) I just stuck my hand in the cage and made him get up. He flapped and fussed, lunged and bit, but I just stuck it out. I guess it must have taken about five minutes of me pushing my hand at him and making him step up, before he did it without a fuss! I gritted my teeth when he bit and didn't give in. I can see it's going to work, I can also see how wrong I was being scared of his bites. Yes, they hurt and yes he has drawn blood, but now it seems that he doesn't really want to bite that hard and if I just "go for it" he is respecting that. So, I'll definitely keep it up. I really don't want Daisy to go the same way, so that's why now I am so determined to do this. Thank you all for your advice. I'll keep you posted on the progress.