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I'm trying to potty train my cockatiel...but not on command. I want him to go to his "litterbox" by himself and go potty- without being told. I read about people who taught their birds to do this on the internet but I was wondering if anyone on hear has done this? I made him a litterbox with a perch in the middle so it would be comfortable. He likes it a lot and pooped (into the litterbox) while sitting on it and I acted very excited and praised him. He look very proud and started chirping :D I hope it works:)
 

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I don't think anyone here has done this and to be honest, it may work for a larger parrot but may not work with a tiel. The best way to do it though is positive reinforcement so any time he does poop in the litter box give him a treat and hopefully he'll get the idea.
 

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one BIG flaw that people need to think of when they think potty training is a good idea....


if they go in ONE spot or place or on command, they may hold it until then. what if you go away for a few days for vacation? what if you arent home and he really has to go? they can get sick from holding it for too long. potty training is not ideal.
 

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They can easily be trained to poop in their cage too so it shouldn't be a problem. If you teach them to go on command than yes, it is dangerous beacause they will wait for your command. Still, many parrot owners use the command potty training and their birds are perfectly fine. I will try it but if he doesn't get it in a couple weeks i'll give up probably :)
 

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just warning, its not ideal and potty training generally isnt a good idea with the little guys, mainly because they poop much more frequently than the larger birds, so shorter amount of time to cause problems than with a larger bird.

birds poop, its easy to clean, keep newspaper down where your bird frequents the most.
 

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I'll see how it goes...if the potty trainng makes him hold it (if poops every 30 minutes instead of 15) then I'll know it problematic. But I really do it think it's fine... you can read about it on google many people have done it, even parrot specialists.
 

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and also google the troubles people have had with it. is it worth risking bacterial infections to have the bird poop in a single spot?

always look at both sides of the coin...
 

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Oh, I have. I read from point of views of those who support it and those who don't. Really, the only danger mentioned was them holding it in which I understand is bad. I do not want to put the bird in danger and will be careful, making sure he can and will go when he needs to:)
 

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If the birds needs to go bad enough it'll just go it won't just hold it in forever, and you train him to fly over when he needs to go so whenever he does he just goes over and its done I don't see why people have a problem? How many peoles birds have actually gotten an infection? Cmon now lol
 

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I've read 3 times what everyone said here and after a few moments of focused, zen-like reflection and contemplation :p on this debate, I think the bottom lines are that:

1. Training your tiel to poop in its cage/in a litterbox in its cage may sound okay, but what about during the odd times when your tiel does not have access to its cage? (ie. you want to take your tiel out for a stroll; you need to take it to a vet; the door to the room where the cage is got closed by accident without your knowing and your tiel is now denied access to the cage)

2. It is probably likely that when a bird needs to poop, it will just do it anyway, but if the bird is trained to do it inside the cage only but is denied access to the cage, then the bird may still try to hold it in a little bit and get a bit stressed out. If this happens often enough then it may still lead to infections in the long run and impact on the bird's well-being.

So, until the day when Sunny understands me when I say "look, I prefer that you do your business inside your cage, but if you must go then you can just go anywhere because that is fine too, don't try to hold it in", :p I personally choose not to mess with potty-training. :)
 

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If the birds needs to go bad enough it'll just go it won't just hold it in forever, and you train him to fly over when he needs to go so whenever he does he just goes over and its done I don't see why people have a problem? How many peoles birds have actually gotten an infection? Cmon now lol
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Actually they wont...that's the problem with potty training. It happens more often with command potty training, the bird will actually hold it until you tell it to go and this has caused serious issues. This type of potty training may be better, but I also think its more ideal for bigger parrots, not smaller ones like tiels and we don't encourage it on the forum. If it works, great, but I'd rather not risk it with my birds.
 

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its not worth the chance. also gotta think, is this bird clipped? if so they cant fly on over to their potty place, either walk, or if theyre far away from the place they have to wait for their owner to take them there. and what if the bird has to stay overnight at the vet or a bird sitter or you go on vacation and your pet sitter forgets about the potty training thing?

there is naturally bacteria in the gut, if the poop is held in for too long, the bird can build up the bacteria and get sick. they CAN die from this, and i would bet it isnt so easy to untrain a bird to potty in a certain spot... so if your bird gets sick once and you want to change your mind, it might not be as easy as you think.

i would not do it. if a potential owner cannot handle the poop, then maybe a bird isnt an ideal pet for them.

cockatiels go poop a lot more frequently than larger parrots. so they cannot hold it for long...
 

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I've read 3 times what everyone said here and after a few moments of focused, zen-like reflection and contemplation :p on this debate, I think the bottom lines are that:

1. Training your tiel to poop in its cage/in a litterbox in its cage may sound okay, but what about during the odd times when your tiel does not have access to its cage? (ie. you want to take your tiel out for a stroll; you need to take it to a vet; the door to the room where the cage is got closed by accident without your knowing and your tiel is now denied access to the cage)

2. It is probably likely that when a bird needs to poop, it will just do it anyway, but if the bird is trained to do it inside the cage only but is denied access to the cage, then the bird may still try to hold it in a little bit and get a bit stressed out. If this happens often enough then it may still lead to infections in the long run and impact on the bird's well-being.
I thought about that too...that's why I made a convienant protable litterbox. It's a small plasic container with a perch in the middle and can be carried virtually everywhere.

And no, Choopcheek is not flighted right now...but I keep his litterbox close by always. When his feathers grow back, he will not be clipped.

And about birds holding their poop... it's actually not that hard for them. Most owners that have larger parrots will say that their parrots do not like pooping on them. They will hold it in until they get off. My own cockatiel is exactly like that! He has NEVER pooped on my shoulder...even after sitting on it for like an hour. If he really wanted to go... he would fly off. But he just holds and poops right after he gets off. Today, he must have really wanted to go because he flew off (he never does that...he has to be forced to get off) and pooped. Basically, I'm saying that holding it in is not stressful and something many pet parrots do everyday.

I'm only trying this potty training thing because I am convinced ther is no danger. It's not that I can't tolerate cleaning after him. I know he can easily not learn the potty training and if he doesn't... I will clean after him. But I believe there is a safe way to potty train, so why not?
 

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How are you convinced there is no danger when we're sitting here listing all the dangers to you?
 

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How are you convinced there is no danger when we're sitting here listing all the dangers to you?
Because I have a solution for every danger that's been listed.
 

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That still doesn't make it any safer or any less of a bad idea.

If things go wrong how will you fix it? It isn't likely that you can untrain a behavior like that..and if you can the bird won't magically forget it. It is more risk than it's worth.

Buy it a birdie diaper..it works just the same without the health risks.
 
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I have ALWAYS potty trained my cockatiels and ALWAYS will. It is EXTREMELY simple to potty train a cockatiel. It took me only a week and they were fully potty trained. Whilst training, I would simply hold the cockatiel over a garbage can or piece of paper and say "go potty" and he would potty. Birds are smart and they catch on quickly.

I'm sorry I don't mean to sound rude, but to those who say this "causes serious problems"... I find that laughable. It does not cause problems.

I will potty train my new cockatiel as well. However, this time I will be purchasing him a birdie diaper as it wil be less hassle when taking him on road trips or outings etc or if I'm on business calls I don't want to be saying "go potty" every 15 minutes!
 

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It does not ALWAYS cause problems. But it has the possibility to cause serious health problems..you want to risk the death of your bird to keep it from pooping on you? I'm sorry, but poop is part of owning a bird. It's not that hard to clean up and it comes out of clothes and everything very easily. Again, it is not worth the risk for the reward.
 
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It is also not hard to potty train the bird nor harmful. Speak to my vet who handles birds in his practice. Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I have a dog. You had better believe she is potty trained. Thus, I will do the same with any pet. Even a bird. There is no difference.
 

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Because I have a solution for every danger that's been listed
My only question is...if the bird gets sick because of this (and I'm not saying that it always happens but it does) will you be able to pay the vet bill?

I have a dog. You had better believe she is potty trained. Thus, I will do the same with any pet. Even a bird. There is no difference.
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Dogs and birds are totally different just like humans and birds are different. But its bad for humans to hold it too...that's how UTIs happen. Using the go potty method is great if you're going to be with the bird 24/7. But if you aren't (like I'm not) then cleaning up after the bird isn't a bad thing.
 
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