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Hullo gang,

Very pleased to report Charlie is really starting to come out of himself a little bit now.

I just have a quick question though, Charlies home is a Hagan Vision, in fact one of these http://www.hagen.com/uk/birds/product.cfm?CAT=8&SUBCAT=805&PROD_ID=08833150031101

when he is having a mad half an hour climbing and going upside down etc, i have noticed a couple of times he has actualy got the very end of his tail feathers stuck right at the bottom of the cage where the clear plastic meets the wireframe. Which is a little worrying, Charlies tail is really long and a bit tatty i think. Do people trim the tail? is it advisable? i dont want him to get stuck again. it is really long................:eek:
 

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Hey- glad to hear he's getting more comfortable with you. As far as the cage, to be honest I'm not a fan of it at all- to me it's quite small. They need more width then height in most cases- esspecially if it's a smaller cage. There are many you can get for under $100US. Their tail does become quite long and it shouldn't be clipped as it helps their balance..etc. It can and will get scruffy looking and even break when they are in a small space.
I would try and get a new cage. We have some pic examples on this site- let me know if you're intrested.
 

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I agree with Aly because of there tails and wing spans they need more width then height that cage you have is nice but its very tall and not very wide you might want to look into a wider cage :)
 

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Hi, and thanks for the info,

I have to be honest, we really didnt look at the cages prior to getting the birdie. I suppose many bird newbies fail in this respect.
I guess it will be similar to when I used to enjoy my aquatics. Started off with a small tank, ended up with an ocean in my bedroom. At the moment tho it will have to do!, I got the biggest one in the store that wasnt silly money, and I do plan on having him out lots and lots.

I will certainly look at some other cages in the meantime, :cool:

Btw remember were english, and over here cockatiels have to live in little shoe boxes just like the master! ;)
 

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I have to be honest, we really didnt look at the cages prior to getting the birdie. I suppose many bird newbies fail in this respect.
Yes they do, including me ;) when I got my first cage I thought cockaiel cage meant just that, came to find out later that it just wasn't big enough it made due for awhile till I could get another one ;)
 

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To be honest i don't see much wrong with the cage dimensions except the depth would be better a little deeper (more like 18"+). Otherwise it's a nice wide cage and while it is tall, the width is enough that it's not silly! :D Personally i don't like the overall look of the vision cages, but that's a personal preference.

Something you will learn about tiels is that, babies especially, they're great at damaging their tails. Cookie completely lost hers due to climbing, sliding, and crash landings combined with baby clumsiness. They learn as they get older, and tails do grow back! :p
 

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So you have two then bea!

do yours talk much? and do they tend to talk less with a furry friend in cage.
Charlie is starting to reply in a birdie fashion, just a little chirp now and then.
he is a bit of a gymnast tho, "look at me, im upside down.............again"
 

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Bailee is an absolutely chatter box, he talks more when he's got Cookie with him than when he's on his own. Cookie's female, so she didn't make much noise to begin with.
 

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Charlie is only 4.5 months old, when will he start to make more noise?
should I just be enjoying the silence.lol
 

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Ollie was quite young when he started chattering as well, he was about 3 1/2 mths old when he said his first word pretty boy. like Bea said are you sure he is a male and if he is enjoy the silence because once they start they never shut up ...lol :p
 

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Hmmm..I agree with Bea and Laura on this one...they are not ussually quiet:) around that age...You have any pics of him?
 

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pics to follow

I will post some more pix later when i get chance, I would appreciate your opinions on the sexing. I wonder if charlie is really charlene?

very quiet birdie, does the loud one pitch excited sound and mumbles a little bit, other than that a silent assasin. ;)
 

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Well he definetly looks like a Charlie to me, maybe he is just a quiet boy for now ;) and soon he will surpise you ....hehe
 

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thanks guyz,

well that confirms what I have been told at the pet store; really funny thing is charlie all of a sudden starting singing a bit tonight - to toms jone's delilah song, he went on for some time! 2 weeks with nothing and then a big sing fest out of the blue! maybe he has been reading my posts.
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thanks guyz,

well that confirms what I have been told at the pet store; really funny thing is charlie all of a sudden starting singing a bit tonight - to toms jone's delilah song, he went on for some time! 2 weeks with nothing and then a big sing fest out of the blue! maybe he has been reading my posts.
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Or he just like's Tom Jones...LOL :D you will have to play it more often for him ;)
 
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