[Wickeddragonlady]

I have 2 cockatiels i need help with. One is a pied and looks to be cinnamon or fallow? Which one do you guys think?
I also have a pied whiteface. Shes suppose to be around a year old. Is she able to be sexed visually or should i have her dna tested as well?(1st and last pictures are of her)

 

[tielfan]

I vote for cinnamon pied. Fallow is usually lighter and more brown-looking, with eyes that are a brighter red.

Pied can't be visually sexed because the pied mutation doesn't follow the normal coloration rules. Both sexes can have either a dark face or a light-colored face, and males can keep their juvenile markings for years. However your whiteface pied has such light pied markings that I think she might be split pied rather than full pied. In that case, the face will change color if she is actually a boy. But if this bird is a year old, it should already have had the first molt and a switch to male coloring would show up. DNA testing is a good route if you want to be sure of the sex.

 

[Wickeddragonlady]

I vote for cinnamon pied. Fallow is usually lighter and more brown-looking, with eyes that are a brighter red.

Pied can't be visually sexed because the pied mutation doesn't follow the normal coloration rules. Both sexes can have either a dark face or a light-colored face, and males can keep their juvenile markings for years. However your whiteface pied has such light pied markings that I think she might be split pied rather than full pied. In that case, the face will change color if she is actually a boy. But if this bird is a year old, it should already have had the first molt and a switch to male coloring would show up. DNA testing is a good route if you want to be sure of the sex.

Thats exactly what i was thinking, i was just looking for conformation thanks so much for the help!
As for the cinnamon, can their eyes reflect red as well? His/her(waiting for dna test results) eyes seem to reflect red moreso than my normal pied baby(attaching anither picture from when i 1st got them. Please ignire the nasty cage, its what they came in from the orevious owner. They have a bigger nicer cage now!)

 

[tielfan]

Cinnamon eyes can look more reddish than normal eyes. The cinnamon mutation changes the color of all the melanin in the body, including the melanin in the eye.